Secret crush
Mama hen
A favorite episode
Another favorite episode
Rosemary DeCamp and Ray Bolger: The Renfrews
With Shaun, Patrick & Ryan
Shaun visits the set
Shaun follows David's footsteps
Shirley & Jack on The Merv Griffin Show
A rare duet on The Merv Griffin Show |
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GH: Susan
Dey has discussed her struggles with eating disorders, but anorexia and
bulimia weren’t exactly diagnosed diseases back then. At the time, was
there any concern that she was ill?
SJ: Well, we knew that she didn’t eat, and her hands got
yellow because all she would eat through lunch would be carrots. We were
always on her back about eating, but she just tossed it away, and said
she wasn’t hungry. But nobody knew what it was back then.
GH: The
recent TV Movies focused on this supposed "crush" Susan had on David during
the run of the show. Was the extent of the interest exaggerated at all?
SJ: I talked to Susan about it at length then. I think
she did have a crush. But in the beginning, she was living with a guy.
She was living with the Story Editor, Dale McRaven. The crush didn’t develop
until later when they broke up. It wasn’t the whole run of the show.
GH: What
was she like to work with?
SJ: She was wonderful. She developed so beautifully as
an actress. Here was a young model from New York — obviously that’s where
she developed the anorexia problem — who had never acted before. She was
a natural. She was so beautiful to look at. She had that willowy, wonderful
look.
GH: Why
do you think she is reluctant to talk about The Partridge Family?
SJ: I think she wanted to go on and do more things. She
felt that being Laurie Partridge would be a problem for her. So she wanted
to put it in the background. Thankfully, she didn’t really have a problem.
It’s too bad, I think.
GH: She
certainly had success since The Partridge Family.
SJ: Well, maybe not as much as she would like.
GH: Danny
[Bonaduce] has been vocal about the problems he was experiencing at home
during the run of the series. Was it obvious to you at the time, too?
SJ: Yes, vaguely. Danny was always having problems with
his father. His father obviously had a terrible temper and I think once
in a while would knock the kids around. Danny was afraid of him, so they
didn’t want him around on the set.
GH: How
often would Danny spend weekends with you and your family?
SJ: Not often. Every once in a while he would come over
and do magic shows with Shaun. Shaun had a magic act then. He used to play
birthday parties with his friend, Steven Solmeyer. They grew up together.
So, Danny would come and go do the magic act with them.
GH: How
much say did you have in the scripts? Were there any that you hated or
rejected?
SJ: I didn’t really reject them. We would have the readings
every Monday, and read the scripts. Now, they would welcome changes but
I never actually just threw out the idea. That would have been too difficult
to do. I left that to Bob Claver. I have to tell you that Bob Claver was
one of the most wonderful Executive Producers that I have ever worked with,
in anything. He was sensational. I trusted him. I knew that he knew what
he was doing. He liked actors. He would give them the benefit of the doubt,
as opposed to so many of them today. If you had a problem, he was there
to talk to about it. So, having that kind of trust was great. Most of the
time, the scripts were pretty good. Now, the writers would change a line
or a scene here or a scene there but we never threw one out.
GH: But
he made you dress like a chicken!
SJ: (Laughs) That, I wasn’t thrilled with! I figured,
"Oh well — you win some, you lose some."
GH: You
have mentioned that the writers would spend time at your home with you
and your family to get story ideas. Can you remember any "real" stories
that became "reel" stories?
SJ: Two shows come to mind: When Danny got caught stealing,
and when Chris and Tracy wanted to run away from home.
GH: Do you have a lot of fond memories
of being on the show?
SJ: Gosh, there are so many of them. The Christmas show
was a great show. I also loved the one with the skunk and the show with
Richard Pryor and Louis Gossett, Jr. The guest stars we had were just wonderful.
We had an incredible array of what are now famous celebrities. Jodie Foster
was on a couple of shows.
GH: Danny
remembers she always spoke in French.
SJ: Yes! She was going to a French school. We also had
Farrah Fawcett. Ray Bolger and Rosemary DeCamp were the grandparents. From
that standpoint it was wonderful because we had so many wonderful people
to work with. And the Christmas show had Dean Jagger, who was just great!
GH: Do
you have a favorite guest star?
SJ: Lou Gossett, Jr., Jodie Foster, and Richard Mulligan.
GH: Any
memories that you wish would just go away?
SJ: No, not really. I had a good time. We had the usual
problems. We had an assistant director and the two of us came to blows
every once in a while. Not actual blows — but verbal blows. I would get
upset when he would call me in at 8:00 in the morning, and I wouldn’t shoot
till 5. So from that standpoint I had a problem with him, because he tried
to cover his tracks a lot. But they do that, and finally we came to a meeting
of the minds. But other than that, I thought the show went smoothly. We
liked each other, and as I said, when you have somebody at the head like
Mr. Claver, it works well.
GH: In
our interview with Bob Claver, he spoke very highly of you too. He said
all he had to do is be upfront and honest with you and you were a joy to
work with.
SJ: Well, that’s true. But that’s true with anybody. But
you don’t find Executive Producers that do that! And every once in a while
he would argue with me, and I would see his point of view, too.
GH: Was
there ever any serious consideration to marrying Shirley off?
SJ: I had boyfriends or dates, but I don’t think they
ever considered that. They would rather bring in guest stars as a date.
GH: How
did your kids react to their Mom being on The Partridge Family?
SJ: They thought it was great! They loved it. First of
all, I was home and working with kids, and they loved the show. They thought
it was a great idea.
GH: I’m
sure they were used to you being recognized on the street, but that must
have increased quite a bit when the show became a hit?
SJ: Sure, at that point it became a lot more so. They
went through that whole thing of kids saying, "Is she really like that?"
at school, or "We wish our mother was like that" and all that kind of stuff.
GH: How
often would your children visit the set?
SJ: The boys visited the set very seldom. When they did,
they played with Danny and the other children.
GH: Why
weren’t they ever in any episodes?
SJ: Because I wouldn’t allow it. I didn’t want them to
go into show business.
GH: How
close were David and his brothers when they were growing up?
SJ: They were close. David was quite a bit older than
they were. They got quite a bit closer as they became adults, because when
you are all adults the age difference doesn’t matter. Shaun, Patrick and
Ryan were quite little when David was a teenager. But he’d come over and
take them places. I think David really appreciated having brothers because
he was such a lonely little kid.
GH: How
did they react to David becoming a teen idol?
SJ: Well they all wanted to emulate him. Shaun did, as
you well know! He was their big brother and really hot then. I think it
was at that point, when they all decided they wanted to be in show business,
which was unfortunate in my eyes. Nevertheless, I think he was the leader
of the pack for the rest of them.
GH: Much has been said in various
specials regarding Jack’s problem with David’s success. Was there an actual
jealousy or was it a lack of respect?
SJ: No, it had nothing to do with jealousy. It had to
do with the fact that he thought David was selling out. He called him a
monkey in a cage. He lost respect for what David was doing. David started
on Broadway and Jack respected his talent. He wanted him to be an actor.
He thought by doing what David was doing, that he would end up exactly
as he ended up. He had to start all over again.
GH: David
didn’t have any control over how that ended up, though, did he?
SJ: No, but for the most part, that is the way it works.
He started so young and started making all that kind of money very fast
-- in records basically, although The Partridge Family helped that
too -- that he ended up feeling exactly the way his father felt — like
he had sold out. He wasn’t doing the kind of music he wanted to do, he
wasn’t acting in the roles he wanted to act in, and he decided to give
it up for a while.
GH: Did
David’s popularity change the atmosphere on the set? Was it more difficult
because of his schedule?
SJ: Oh, yes. He would show up late for the Monday morning
readings, or whatever. I mean, who could blame him? Because he had been
working every weekend going out and doing concerts. It was difficult. I
don’t know how the boy managed. But still, he had a responsibility to the
series, so he and I had it out once or twice about that.
GH: Danny
said he realized the show was a hit when he and David drove the bus off
the studio lot and a mini-riot occurred. When did you realize that the
show had become as huge as it was?
SJ: Probably around the same time as Danny did. We had
never really been to David’s concerts at this point. After that, of course,
we did. We went to several of them. But I had no idea that this was beginning
to happen until that incident. All of a sudden people were pounding on
the bus and jumping all over the place. It was chaotic!
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